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January 18th, 2006, 07:35 PM
reason

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Originally posted by travelinman:
Also, when the big Hollywood studios told Gibson to shove it, did he run to the ACLU whining about discrimination? Hell no he spent 25 million of his own money, made a damn good movie and made a significant amount of cash.

Now I wonder what would have happened if the studios told the people who wanted to make BBM to take a hike? Does litigation for discrimination and possible hate crimes come to mind?

What you left out is that the studio has spent more advertising Munich than they did BBM.

You also left out that both movies have similar revenues, around $33mm each, but BBM cost $14mm to make and Munich cost $70mm.

Also, has *any* movie maker ever gone to the ACLU because they had trouble finding distribution?

Cuck-koo. Cuck-koo.
January 18th, 2006, 08:04 PM
Dulcinea

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Originally posted by travelinman:
Now tell me why, after all those mega million movies someone would push a 30 million movie so hard?

Hmmmm, perhaps they are chosing to throw their weight behind the one that they think has the best chance of winning?
January 19th, 2006, 04:39 AM
cincygreg

No need to start a thread about it, I just thought some of you might be interested so I put it on here.
Not trying to hijack this thread or anything.

I wanna see Munich, just havent done it yet.
January 19th, 2006, 04:41 AM
cincygreg

Does that make them "sheepboys" instead of cowboys? [img]graemlins/sure.gif[/img]

How about a compromise.
Make an epic combining the two and call it...
"The passion of the gay sheephearding cowboys" [img]graemlins/hmmm.gif[/img]
January 19th, 2006, 04:57 AM
Dulcinea

It has been most enlightening this week to see the reactions of co-workers when I told them what movie I saw last weekend.

I had lunch today with 3 former co-workers; we all worked together about 5-10 years ago, and we have been friends through 6 births, 3 divorces and 2 marriages. I learned a great deal that I had not known about them by their reaction to the news that I had chosen to go to this movie.

I presented the story of forbidden love to them by comparing it to Romeo and Juliet (which they would ALL see) and also to an imagined story set in the early twentieth century American South between a black man and a white woman (which they would also see). Yet the thought of two men kissing squicks them out, and the saying "Brokeback Mountain, where men are men and sheep are scared" was trotted out.
January 19th, 2006, 10:21 AM
LanDroid

"shove the liberal agenda down my throat"

Again, homo-erotic imagery used when complaining about gay issues... [img]graemlins/smarty.gif[/img]
January 19th, 2006, 10:30 AM
travelinman

Quote:

Originally posted by LanDroid:
"shove the liberal agenda down my throat"

Again, homo-erotic imagery used when complaining about gay issues... [img]graemlins/smarty.gif[/img]

Why are you the one to get it? Hmmmm........
January 19th, 2006, 10:59 AM
travelinman

Quote:

Originally posted by Dulcinea:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by travelinman:
Now tell me why, after all those mega million movies someone would push a 30 million movie so hard?

Hmmmm, perhaps they are chosing to throw their weight behind the one that they think has the best chance of winning?<hr /></blockquote>Come on I thought you were the smart one.

BBM would win both GGs and Oscars whether it is a great movie or a crummy movie. Just like the Passion was not going to win any awards regardless of how good the movie was. Right now Liberal movies are in and conservative movies are out.

Let?s look at some history of best picture.

War movies:
1963 Laurence of Arabia
1958 Bridge over the river Kwai
1954 From here to eternity
1944 Casablanca
1930 All quite on the western front
1927 Wings

Politically incorrect movies:
1962 West Side Story
1960 Ben-Hur
1940 Gone with the wind

If the movies I listed above were made today without changing the story line do you really think they would stand a chance in hell of receiving anything?

What if the following movies were mad at different times do you think they would receive notice?

Schindler's List 1994 ? What would have happen in 1944?
Dances with wolves 1991 - What would have happen in 1941?
Gandi 1983 ? What would have happened in 1953?
January 19th, 2006, 01:34 PM
Dulcinea

Here is another reason Hollywood liberal types are currently pushing movies with a political agenda is: peoples' opinions need to change.

An example from my own life - in high school I went to a prom with a friend so his parents would think he was heterosexual. I grew up in one of the most intolerant places in the United States, and I had friends who would have been rejected by their families and beaten in school if they had allowed people to know what they were.
January 19th, 2006, 02:12 PM
cincygreg

Controversial Oscar winners?
What about 1969 Midnight Cowboy?

Here's some trivia about it

Trivia for
Midnight Cowboy (1969)

Dustin Hoffman ad-libbed the famous line, "I'm walking here! I'm walking here!" as the cab driver almost hit him when he was walking across the street. The cab was a real one, not part of the production (the scene was filmed in actual city crowds). Hoffman improvised the line because he didn't want to ruin a difficult take.

Dustin Hoffman kept pebbles in his shoe to ensure his limp would be consistent from shot to shot.

Cameo: [M. Emmet Walsh]

Bob Dylan's song "Lay Lady Lay" was written for inclusion in the film but missed the deadline.

Lee Majors was originally cast as Joe Buck, but had to pull out when his TV series, "The Big Valley" (1965), was renewed for another season.

Michael Sarrazin was also slated to play Joe Buck.

Robert Blake was offered the part of Ratso, but declined.

Before Dustin Hoffman auditioned for this film, he knew that his all-American image could easily cost him the job. To prove he could do it, he asked the auditioning film executive to meet him on a street corner in Manhattan, and in the meantime, dressed himself in filthy rags. The executive arrived at the appointed corner and waited, barely noticing the "beggar" less than ten feet away who was accosting people for spare change. At last, the beggar walked up to him and revealed his true identity.

One studio executive sent director John Schlesinger a memo stating, If we could clean this up and add a few songs, it could be a great vehicle for Elvis Presley."

Dustin Hoffman was originally chosen for the role of Ratso on the basis of an off-Broadway one-man show called "Eh!" in which producer Jerome Hellman saw him in 1965.

The only X-rated film ever to win a Best Picture Oscar.

The film was rated "X" (no one under 17 admitted) upon its original release in 1969, but the unrestricted use of that rating by pornographic filmmakers caused the rating to quickly become associated with hardcore films. Because of the stigma that developed around the "X" rating in the ratings system's early years (many theaters refused to run "X" films, and many newspapers would not run ads for them). The film was given a new "M" (mature audiences) rating in 1971, without having anything changed or removed.

This was the first film to have been released with an X rating to be shown on prime time network television. The film's rating had been changed to R by the time of the film's television premiere.

The only X rated movie shown to a US President while in office.

Teenage girl fans of The Graduate (1967) would scream when they saw Dustin Hoffman filming in the streets of New York, even though he was in his filthy costume as Rizzo.

John Schlesinger once said that the inspiration for this film came from the little-known Yugoslav movie Kad budem mrtav i beo (1967)

Andy Warhol was originally scheduled to appear in the Factory sequence. His appearance was cancelled when he was shot by Valerie Solanis.

Al Pacino was scheduled for a one-day shoot in which he was to play a Vietnam vet who shares a bus to Manhattan with Jon Voight. His commitment to The Panic in Needle Park (1971), however, prevented this from ever materializing

Dustin Hoffman put in so much effort portraying one of Ratso's coughing fits that one time he actually ended up vomiting.

The movie's line "I'm walking here! I'm walking here!" was voted as the #27 movie quote by the American Film Institute (out of 100).

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